Re: Chechnya page refacement : biosys.bre.orst.edu

[Bronc Buster <bronc@2600.com>]

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In normal cases I would fully support these guys and what they are doing,
but upon closer inspection, it turns out that these guys might just be
another gang of roving kode kiddies. If you take a look at some other
sites that have been hacked by the same gang in the last few days, you'll
see they are nothing more then "eYe eM eLe3t" kind of hacks. Out of the
several I were able to find, I only saw 2 that talked about Chechnya. 

Either thay had a 180 degree change of heart, or they are hacking first
and looking for a cause to tie in with the hack later. Sometimes it's hard
to say in these cases, but looking at this person(s) track record, I'd say
it's the latter case :/

Too bad.


regards,
   Bronc Buster
  bronc@2600.com
  bronc@attrition.org
  http://www.attrition.org/~bronc

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Me Uh, K. wrote:

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> 
> I always approve of people that hack worthwhile and
> relevant sites, in order to post a political view,
> opinion, agenda, ect.  
> Well, I approve more, anyway.  I tend to have more
> respect for them than the kids that hack sites just to
> say 'Ann3. R. K3y 0wn3z your @zz!  Gr33tz t0 D0ug,
> Lamm0rz, Fr3d, and 3v3ry1 at
> #hax0rzk1cks0much@ZZ1tzn0t3v3nfunnyandw3c00l1o'
> 
> But either way, it's still stupid.  If you're willing
> to sink to breaking the law in order to spread some
> any kind of message, you're better off with a spam
> campaign.  And there's always a designated outlet for
> any kind of complaint you have.  
> 
> There are a lot of people on the internet, and chances
> are, if they're going to actually care enough to do
> anything to help you, no matter what your plight,
> they're already on a mailing list related to it (or
> 2).  The way information spreads over the net, all you
> have to do is tell the right people, and anything you
> have to say will spread on it's on.
> 
> -mia k. (who is afraid of the stupidity she sees on
> defaced@attrition.org, even though it makes her want
> to hack sites just to raise the bar somewhat)
> 
> 
> --- Grugnog <grugnog@tao.ca> wrote:
> > [: hacktivism :]
> > 
> > Quote from refaced page
> >
> <http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1999/11/09/biosys.bre.orst.edu>:
> > 
> > What do people think of this type of action? Is it
> > an action? Is it hacktivism?
> > Is it effective? Does the site targetted matter?
> > Does this kind of more
> > political refacement count as 'cyberwar' or is it an
> > extension of issue based
> > refacements?
> > - Grug
> 
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