Re: Chechnya page refacement : biosys.bre.orst.edu

[ZoeScanner <zoescanner@yahoo.com>]

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This looks to me more like a ; "Hi! see what I
can do!...and Hi to my friends too!"
Hacking a page for Activist reasons...doesn't
usually require a list of admired friends names.
methinks the Chechnya mention was just that..an
afterthought,maybe..Well..at least they did think
of it though...and it just might reach people
with a message....I can deal with that...it's
kinda like a good book/movie/show...with the
advertisements tacked on....At least they used
the hack for a decent purpose,<G>It just would
have looked more impressive -w- out the 'list'.
yeah...it deff was an act of hactivism...however
it was originally intended.I would encourage this
kind of "defacement" anyday. It says something.
the News zines say Boris Y.is absentee during
most of this mess,leaving the oldtyme hardliners
to their trade.Any ideas why? or where? Should
Nato really step in on a 'sort of' civil war
there? methinks a mass hackattack on a few choice
Russian sites would serve well........
peace
ZoeScanner

> --- Grugnog <grugnog@tao.ca> wrote:
> > [: hacktivism :]
> > 
> > Quote from refaced page
> >
>
<http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1999/11/09/biosys.bre.orst.edu>:
> > 
> > What do people think of this type of action?
Is it
> > an action? Is it hacktivism?
> > Is it effective? Does the site targetted
matter?
> > Does this kind of more
> > political refacement count as 'cyberwar' or
is it an
> > extension of issue based
> > refacements?
> > - Grug
> 
>


--- Bronc Buster <bronc@2600.com> wrote:
> [: hacktivism :]
> 
> 
> In normal cases I would fully support these
> guys and what they are doing,
> but upon closer inspection, it turns out that
> these guys might just be
> another gang of roving kode kiddies. If you
> take a look at some other
> sites that have been hacked by the same gang in
> the last few days, you'll
> see they are nothing more then "eYe eM eLe3t"
> kind of hacks. Out of the
> several I were able to find, I only saw 2 that
> talked about Chechnya. 
> 
> Either thay had a 180 degree change of heart,
> or they are hacking first
> and looking for a cause to tie in with the hack
> later. Sometimes it's hard
> to say in these cases, but looking at this
> person(s) track record, I'd say
> it's the latter case :/
> 
> Too bad.
> 
> 
> regards,
>    Bronc Buster
>   bronc@2600.com
>   bronc@attrition.org
>   http://www.attrition.org/~bronc
> 
> On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Me Uh, K. wrote:
> 
> > [: hacktivism :]
> > 
> > I always approve of people that hack
> worthwhile and
> > relevant sites, in order to post a political
> view,
> > opinion, agenda, ect.  
> > Well, I approve more, anyway.  I tend to have
> more
> > respect for them than the kids that hack
> sites just to
> > say 'Ann3. R. K3y 0wn3z your @zz!  Gr33tz t0
> D0ug,
> > Lamm0rz, Fr3d, and 3v3ry1 at
> >
> #hax0rzk1cks0much@ZZ1tzn0t3v3nfunnyandw3c00l1o'
> > 
> > But either way, it's still stupid.  If you're
> willing
> > to sink to breaking the law in order to
> spread some
> > any kind of message, you're better off with a
> spam
> > campaign.  And there's always a designated
> outlet for
> > any kind of complaint you have.  
> > 
> > There are a lot of people on the internet,
> and chances
> > are, if they're going to actually care enough
> to do
> > anything to help you, no matter what your
> plight,
> > they're already on a mailing list related to
> it (or
> > 2).  The way information spreads over the
> net, all you
> > have to do is tell the right people, and
> anything you
> > have to say will spread on it's on.
> > 
> > -mia k. (who is afraid of the stupidity she
> sees on
> > defaced@attrition.org, even though it makes
> her want
> > to hack sites just to raise the bar somewhat)
> > 
> > 


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