RE: real changes
From
lsi <lsi@lsi.clara.net>
Date
Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:41:37 +0100
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Cheers Andrea,
> I suppose I got caught up a little in the hysteria.
Some people want to catch you up like that, though! That's the
point really, they create the hysteria to make people think in a
certain way. Your mission is first, to see through that, and
second, to enable others to see through it also.
> About Carnivore: Thumbs up to Cerf. I'd hate to see a couple of ISP
> nerds get their hands on it.
Well, the ISPs are the alternative to the government. Although
these nerds may not be very much like real people, you can be
sure they are much more like real people than the government. For
a start, they will probably upload the source to the net, pesky
types that they are! This will enable everybody to see how it
works, so we know that it isn't listening to everybody on the ISP,
for example. The government do not plan to upload the source to
the net, which prevents us from knowing that. I personally feel
more comfortable if I know who is doing what.. not that I am a nerd
;-)
> Would anyone object to me putting up a link to Hacktivism on my
> website?
...and my last comment: don't ask, just do it. You can be sure
someone will write you a polite email if there is an issue.... the
feedback you get will guide you.
carnivore update: a court judgment passed on CALEA legislation
may make Carnivore illegal (something to do with separating
addressing and content) .. see CDT website http://www.cdt.org/ ...
also.. Brock Meeks on MSNBC (haha) writes that the FBI have
admitted to a congressional hearing that email evidence lacks the
substance even of a tapped telephone conversation -- without
intonation it is difficult to tell (and thus will be difficult to swing in
court) what the person meant, eg their intent is probably not
discernable. Which means the evidence is not useful.
Stuart
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