Re: csg policy about sensitive material

From Alex Day <aday999@yahoo.com>
Date Thu, 2 Aug 2007 21:39:08 -0700 (PDT)
Cc Matthew Hale <husunzi@hotmail.com>, zhongguo@openflows.org
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I think that this ignores the fact that we aren't in China and most of the others are.  We aren't really sticking our necks out.  We are, however, likely getting the site blocked. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Dale Wen <dale.wen@gmail.com>
To: Mobo.Gao@utas.edu.au
Cc: Matthew Hale <husunzi@hotmail.com>; zhongguo@openflows.org
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 3:43:42 AM
Subject: Re: csg policy about sensitive material

Honestly, I don't see any reason why CSG should stick its neck out for
the old lefties, especially as they themselves have caved in.

On 7/29/07, Mobo Gao <Mobo.Gao@utas.edu.au> wrote:
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> Well! I suggest that we hold on for a while, should we?
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>  ________________________________
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> From: worker-zhongguo@openflows.org [mailto:worker-zhongguo@openflows.org]
> On Behalf Of Matthew Hale
>  Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2007 4:19 AM
>  To: zhongguo@openflows.org
>  Subject: csg policy about sensitive material
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>
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> Yes, probably because of the Ma Bin et al letter. What do people think?
> Should we do like Mao Flag and remove the letter in the hopes that we'll be
> unblocked? What should be our policy on this sort of thing?
>
>  Matt
>
>  > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:43:55 +0800
>  > From: dale.wen@gmail.com
>  > To: husunzi@hotmail.com
>  > Subject: Re: wang hui interview; ma bin et al translations
>  > CC: zhongguo@openflows.org
>  >
>  > Just to let you know, www.chinastudygroup.org has been blocked in
>  > China since about 10 days ago.
>  >
>  > On 7/27/07, Matthew Hale <husunzi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  > > Thanks for pointing this out, Dale. I've started a translation page for
> the
>  > > Wang Hui interview here, in case anyone wants to help out with that:
>  > >
> http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?action="">
>  > >
>  > > Also, the translation page for the Ma Bin et al. letter to Hu Jintao
> seems
>  > > to be working now (maybe it worked all along - when you click "save"
> you may
>  > > still get a "syntax error" message, but the text seems to be getting
> saved
>  > > anyway) - that page is here in case anyone can help out with that:
>  > >
>
http://www.chinastudygroup.org/index.php?action="">
>  > >
>  > > Best,
>  > >
>  > > Matt
>  > >
>  > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:56:36 -0500
>  > > > From: dale.wen@gmail.com
>  > > > To: Mobo.Gao@utas.edu.au
>  > > > Subject: Re: Dushu
>  > > > CC: aday999@yahoo.com; zhongguo@openflows.org
>  > > >
>  > > > Finally, a direct response from Wang Hui
>  > > > ϶ܿ͵ķŭ
>  > > >
http://nbweekly.oeeee.com/Print/Page/235,24.shtml
>  > > >
>  > > > On 7/22/07, Mobo Gao <Mobo.Gao@utas.edu.au> wrote:
>  > > > > It might be worthwhile to invite Wang Hui to say something and get
> it
>  > > > > published in our website (that is if he is willing to talk about
> it)
>  > > > >
>  > > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > > From: worker-zhongguo@openflows.org
>  > > [mailto:worker-zhongguo@openflows.org]
>  > > > > On Behalf Of Dale Wen
>  > > > > Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 11:40 AM
>  > > > > To: Alex Day
>  > > > > Cc: zhongguo@openflows.org
>  > > > > Subject: Re: Dushu
>  > > > >
>  > > > > I wrote one of them
>  > > > >
> http://www.wyzxsx.com/Article/Class21/200707/21248.html
>  > > > >
>  > > > > I am thinking about writing an English article about it--but it is
> a
>  > > > > tricky one, as I don't want to follow the normal liberal narrative
>  > > > > which is nothing but cliche. Would like to hear your opinion on
> this,
>  > > > > as well as where to send a piece if anyone of us write an English
>  > > > > piece on the issue.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Best,
>  > > > > Dale
>  > > > >
>  > > > > On 7/22/07, Alex Day <aday999@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > I'm wondering what people make of the removal of Wang Hui and
> Huang
>  > > Ping
>  > > > > as
>  > > > > > editors of Dushu.
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > Utopia (Wuyouzhixiang--
>  > > > > >
> http://www.wyzxsx.com/Article/Class21/Index.html) has
>  > > > > > several responses on their web site.
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > Best,
>  > > > > > Alex
>  > > > > >
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>  > > > >
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>  > > > > A longer Chinese version
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>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > --
>  > > > Dale Wen, Ph.D.
>  > > > Consultant on China issues
>  > > >
>  > > > I recently published a report about China and globalization
>  > > > A shorter English version
>  > > > www.ifg.org/pdf/FinalChinaReport.pdf
>  > > > A longer Chinese version
>  > > > www.wyzxsx.com/ebook/002.doc
>  > >
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>  >
>  > --
>  > Dale Wen, Ph.D.
>  > Consultant on China issues
>  >
>  > I recently published a report about China and globalization
>  > A shorter English version
>  > www.ifg.org/pdf/FinalChinaReport.pdf
>  > A longer Chinese version
>  > www.wyzxsx.com/ebook/002.doc
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