Re: (Fwd) ECHELON spamming is harmful

From "Me Uh, K." <>
Date Sat, 27 Nov 1999 08:56:40 -0800 (PST)

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The entire point of events like JED has always been
memeatic(sp?), to reaise public awareness, and was
never actually intended to actually STOP the damn
thing.  (hell, that'd be illeagle)

So far as I understand it, we were always interested
in promoting mass-encryption of personal mail, and
perhaps raising enough awareness in the middle classes
to put political pressure on the NSA.  (and I'm not
holding my breath there, either)

Continuing to send JED emails is basically a waste of
time and resources.  The media event has come and
gone, some good press was won, and now it's over.  You
want to actually contribute to making some kind of
difference, send people an essay, or steal some text
from, and spam people with that.  Long
lists of 'keywords' isn't going to do anything but get
your account killed for spamming.

> [: hacktivism :]
> A subject for debating...
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> Date sent:      	Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:57:54 -0800
> From:           	Lucky Green
> <>
> Subject:        	ECHELON spamming is harmful [was:
> RE: - archnemesis of
> 	the global spy network]
> (Reading the supposed ECHELON trigger words on the
> site, I could not help
> but notice the term "retinal fetish". Pray tell,
> what is a "retinal
> fetish")?
> As many Cypherpunks know, these ECHELON "flood" 
> campaigns do more harm
> than good. Already, I am reading reports on the Net
> about how ECHELON was
> put on the brink of inoperability by flooding and
> will soon experience a
> complete meltdown. Dream on. A system that uses
> space-based antennas over
> twice the size of a football field, features a 1
> petabyte RAID array for
> caching data requiring over 1Gbps of continuous
> input to not suffer from
> starvation, and features 12 hectare ground-based
> antennas is not going to
> be put out of business by a few, or even a few
> thousands, of "spiked"
> emails.
> See Rop's excellent post on this topic attached
> below.

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