Re: Different policies

From Bronc Buster <>
Date Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:52:20 -0600 (MDT)
Cc Hairy <>

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 I think it would be clear to a child that I was talking about the
RTMark in my post. 

 It's also clear you [harry] have some personal problems you need to spend
some time on before you try and post again to this list and attempt to
start up some kind of immature flame war. (flames >> /dev/null)

 I am not sure what you [harry] are talking about regarding last year, but
since day one of RTMark and their DoS attacks I have been against their
methods. This stands true for the electro-hippies, or any other group who
wants to use DoS type attacks against ANYONE. 

 There is a big diffrence between the "carpet bombing" type DoS attacks
and pin point ones that focus on your cause. DoS attacks only harm the
internet as a whole and a lot of innocent people who just happen to be on
the same backbone or using the same provider. As the more high profile DoS
attacks get more media attention the government is springing in action in
their knee jerk fashion. What are we end up with? More government
intervention online. More laws. Less freedom.

 Come on, people can't honestly sit there and say they are not already
seeing this happen?

 There is an old saying that goes: The only thing protecting the First
Admendment is the Second.

 Online our freedoms have nothing to protect them, and any reason the
government can get to "govern" the net is good news to them.

   Bronc Buster

On 16 Jun 2000, Hairy wrote:

> On Thu, 18 May 2000 21:18:09 -0600 (MDT) Bronc Buster <> wrote:
> >The Electrohippies are NOT HACKtivists.
> >They are more up the ally of Internet Terrorists/Extortionists.
> jeez, i wonder if in the [almost] a year i have been on the list if YOU have yet to NOT attack someone for not being a "true hacktivist" or "true hacker", etc.....
> do you spend all of your time convincing yourself that you are the only true one?
> go ahead, send me an email off list threatening me and deriding me, like you did last year....
> still fretting that J.E.D. was a success?

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