Re: Don't SPlit the List & Other Thoughts

[Kayla Pollnow <pollnow@ionet.net>]

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Just thought I'd let you know that those rtmark guys we love so much are the ones
behind the gwbush site. Didn't know if you knew the connection.

noreastah wrote:

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> At 05:41 PM 10/27/99 +0000, you wrote:
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> >Uhhhhh - Stefan.... if we can't have one healthy list, I don't understand
> >what the rationale for splitting it into three unhealthy lists could
> >be....
> >
>
> I AGREE!
>
> >Let's just focus on getting the list that we've got back to what it was
> >before JED (ie: before the flood of new subscribers).... and have some
> >discussion here that comes down to more than - "i'm really paranoid and
> >have lots of reasons to be" or "you are so uncool cause you don't know how
> >to be a hacker" or whatever seems to be filling my box this past week.
>
> I still haven't quite figured out what the purpose of this list is though I
> have enjoyed a small percentage of the postings.
>
> I guess the point in my joining this list was to increase my technical
> knowledge so that I could use this against various powerful entities that I
> feel are have too much control over society (perhaps some sort of weird
> David vs. Goliath fantasy I have???). Probably I naive thought...
>
> How have people effectively used computers and the internet against
> exploitive corporations?
>
> I think http://www.ainfos.ca/ is a great thing. Yes it's just a news web
> site, but I would probably have no other way to knowing about some of the
> stories contained on it if it didn't exist.
>
> I think the EDT is a well intentioned but perhaps not very effecive method
> of protest. Don't get me wrong though - I'm glad some folks are trying new
> and creative ways to protest! Gawd knows we need that!
>
> I still very much like the idea(s) of http://www.rtmark.com
>
> I like the idea that of having a http://www.subvertise.org/ (still
> unfinished) web site that can be used to distribute radical graphics
> worldwide.
>
> I'm glad someone spoofed that asshole running for president in the USA
> George W Bush at http://www.gwbush.com/
>
> I'd don't think anyone is going to really learn much about hacking on this
> list (judging from what's been posted so far), so what practice projects
> can people suggest that haven't already been done???
>
> Also can we start to have people post things about issues NOT related to
> JED?! Every other gawd-dang message I get from this list seems to mention it.
>
> noreastah
>
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