Re: security

[megan <megan@tao.ca>]

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yes - it seemed belligerent - and it also seemd to imply that we on this
list are morons who haven't figured out the basic tenets of 'net security
yet... 

Security is an issue in all of our movement work for obvious reasons...
and there is nothing wrong with informing each other of security risks
that we see taking place (if we feel that some high level of security is
needed - which I question in this forum since this list is one of
discussion not action planning)....

But the way that we approach each other is not to say "you stupid moron
you are breaching my imagined need for security" - but in fact to have a
reasonable discussion about the issues involved and how to better increase
all of our security practices.

Shawn's email is a perfect example of how not to approach this
question....

Megan

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, jesse hirsh wrote:

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> is it me? or did this post just seem belligerant?
> 
> hey shawn, what are you doing to ensure my security?
> 
> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, SHAWN GALVIN wrote:
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> > I have been on this list since it started to increase in volume of mail.
> > I have watched the list take on more and more new members.  It has been
> > very enlightening to read the regular postings, but wake up everybody!!!
> > SECURITY!!  It is of very high probability that there are some pigs that
> > are sitting in some office somewhere who are watching this list.  When
> > the list was younger it seemed like less of a concern, but now it sounds
> > as if you guys are going to plan an action over the fucking internet. 
> > Have you any common sense?  You'll have trouble planning anything over
> > any media when your ass is in the can.
> > 			security.
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