Re: Ehippies new DoS tools and information
Lorax Agrivane <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:00:07 +0000 (GMT)
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Bronc Buster wrote:
> DoS attacks are more like the carpet bombing used in Vietnam. Sure you may
> hit the target, but then again, you hit everyone else around it,
> regardless if they are innocent or not.
Let me start off by agreeing with B.B. in that DoS is quite usually
*lame*, and entirely the realm of Kiddies. If you know what you are
doing, and can target a specific machine / netblock that is responsible
for Evil, more power to you. It should be no suprise that there are
still machines out there with both echo and chargen listening to the
world... but DoS accompolishes very, very little.
What I am suprised at is how little attention the backbone providers
have been recieving over all of this. Several of the affected sites
sit in the *same machine room*. (FGC's Manhatten POP, which is a
lovely place to spend a weekend in, across the street from a fantastic
> Not to mention, DoS attacks are a federal crime and could land you in jail
> for quite a while.
Have no doubt that the "authorities" will put you in chains if they
can. Downtime is embarassing to the corporation, and the corporation
is the poltical power in many places these days. With hyper-inflated
stock prices, and "cost" of DoS and defacing being counted in the
millions and many thousands of dollars respectivly, it's well
within the parameters required to get the budget for an extended
case/lawsuit/just messing up your existance.
> Right now a team I am on is working closely with human rights groups and
> hacker groups on a set of hacktivism applications to be released this
> summer at DefCon. It will show that Hacktivism is a real way to use the
> net for to blend activism and technology in a posive way, while helping
> people at the same time.
That's cool to hear. I look forward to learning more about the
A good example in recent history... iComm.ca and madmagic arranged
to get connectivity and access for folks at the University of East
Timore. Seriously negative stuff went down there as you know, but
there was another conduit for them to communicate with the world
because of that blending of hackers and activists...
> Hacktivism shold be about positive actions and bringing issues to light,
> not about punishing people or companies over views you may not agree with.
The best way for people to spend their life energy around hacktivism
is to do just that, educate those who do not know, refine our own
knowledge and skills so that we can be more effective in delivering
that message of positive action.
Nabgure Sevraqyl Unpxgvivfz Yvfg-Jbexre.
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