Re: unitedskins.com

From Jim Kosem <jkosem@apk.net>
Date Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:59:12 -0500 (EST)
In-reply-to <Pine.BSF.3.96.991111182143.18096A-100000@vapour.net>


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I agree.  To internally attack infrastructure could be construed as civil
disobedience, but they are corporate entities where civil disobedience
usually denotes protest against the state.

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On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, batz wrote:

> [: hacktivism :]
> 
> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Me Uh, K. wrote:
> 
> :-mia k. (if you shut off the power to an ISP, does
> :that count as hacktivism/electronic civil
> :disobedience, or is that outright terrorism?)
> 
> It's 'infrastructual warfare';)  If you are a state,
> it's a humane[!?] and media friendly form of warfare.
> If you are not, it is a global campaign of terror
> wrought against civilians and their way of life that must
> be crushed before it's Too Late(tm). 
> 
> IMHO hacktivism isi based more upon memetics than
> actual intrusion/disruption. It's not revolution,
> it's strategic activism that relies upon
> intelligence gathering, public opinion swaying,
> the erosion of confidence in the economy and
> technology. It's propaganda, disinformation,
> advertising, education, manipulation, and 
> machiavellian subversion. 
> 
> Hacktivism gives quantitative answers to 
> qualitative claims. This undermines peoples
> confidence in the way the economy works,
> the way their personal information is kept,
> and the ability of the authorities to 
> maintain their quality of life. 
> 
> Hacktivists should concentrate on solving
> DES, cracking smart cards, beating 
> biometrics, compromising firewalls, 
> beating M$'s lame attempts at convincing
> people their products are safe, getting
> refunds for their unused M$ products
> based on the End User Agreement, exposing
> surviellance, exposing planned obselsesance,
> and telling people about it. Lots of people. 
> 
> Hacktivism is not direct action. Homeless people
> without computers don't care if some site gets
> cracked. Getting space and starting a co-op
> for housing, food and services OTOH is direct
> action. Starting a needle exchange is direct
> action. Building safe temporary shelters is
> direct action. Buyers clubs for pot are 
> direct action.  
> 
> Eroding public confidence in institutions 
> is not direct action. It is an accessory to
> those that need it, and sole means for those
> that would abuse it. 
> 
> Manipulate Authority. 
> 
> Mind you, any manipulatable authority ceases to be authoritative
> once compromised, so I guess;
> 
> There is no Authority. 
> 
> is a little more appropriate. ;)
> 
> 
> --
> batz
> Chief Reverse Engineer and Barstool Activist 
> Superficial Intelligence Research Division
> Defective Technologies
> 
> 
> 
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